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    <p>Hi,<br>
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    <p>I also thought about the idea of having an `Experimental`
      namespace. If we develop some new functionality but it might not
      be ready for production or we are not yet sure that the interface
      is optimal, but there are people interested in this development,
      then it could be nice to have a separate namespace for this to get
      the code in the master branch. In my opinion, `Impl` should be
      reserved for implementation details. But `Experimental` as also
      used in dune-functions, could be a place to add new code - that
      should not be a requirement for any non-experimental other
      feature, but could be used in other experimental code. We then
      just need to make sure that old experimental features - that were
      unsuccessful or are simply outdated - should be removed at some
      point and that some experimental feature eventually move into the
      non-experimental part of the library.</p>
    <p>Not everything can be thoroughly tested by other developers,
      especially if the new feature is out of the scope of the daily
      work. Then it would be unfair to not merge this code, but also not
      a good idea to merge it right away into the public interface of
      the module. So, the `Experimental` namespace could be a way in the
      middle.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Best regards,<br>
      Simon<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.07.21 um 08:47 schrieb Oliver
      Sander:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:e4d9200f-4a5d-dab2-aedb-f68152f4926b@tu-dresden.de">Hi
      Santiago,
      <br>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">  * For !93, Christian proposed to merge
        because "it does not change existing code and adds value for the
        'under construction' pdelab changes.". But I am also fine
        discussing it a bit further. @simon, @carsten @oliver Any
        opinions to this?
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      I do not have an opinion on this.
      <br>
      <br>
      If you are not sure about the final interface then maybe a
      namespace
      <br>
      like 'Impl' or 'Experimental' is a good place?
      <br>
      <br>
      Best,
      <br>
      Oliver
      <br>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <br>
        <br>
        My opinion is that !92 should be in the release, while !93 is
        just a -nice to have- feature.
        <br>
        <br>
        Best,
        <br>
        Santiago
        <br>
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        Christoph Grüninger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:foss@grueninger.de"><foss@grueninger.de></a>
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        *Subject:* Re: [Dune-devel] DUNE 2.8 release plan: Consider
        functions, typetree, and uggrid?
        <br>
        Hi Christian,
        <br>
        hi Santiago,
        <br>
        <br>
        what is the status regarding your MR? Can I branch or should I
        wait a
        <br>
        little bit longer?
        <br>
        <br>
        Bye
        <br>
        Christoph
        <br>
        <br>
        Am 09.07.21 um 16:44 schrieb Christian Engwer:
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">Hi Christoph,
          <br>
          <br>
          Yesterday I met with Santiago and we went through a couple of
          changes.
          <br>
          There are some small last things I want to check, yes you are
          right,
          <br>
          there are still some MRs that should ideally be merged before
          2.8.
          <br>
          <br>
          Ciao
          <br>
          Christian
          <br>
          <br>
          Am 9. Juli 2021 16:20:33 MESZ schrieb "Christoph Grüninger"
          <br>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:foss@grueninger.de"><foss@grueninger.de></a>:
          <br>
          <br>
               Hi Carsten,
          <br>
               hi Oliver,
          <br>
               hi Christian,
          <br>
          <br>
               Markus and I, we are preparing the Dune 2.8 release for
          the core
          <br>
               modules. Should we also do dune-typetree, dune-functions,
          and
          <br>
               dune-uggrid, similar as I did for Dune 2.7?
          <br>
          <br>
               I am under the impression, that you might want to merge
          stuff prior to
          <br>
               the branching:
          <br>
               typtree:
          <br>
               !92 Add tree transformation to dynamic power nodes
          <br>
               !93 Resolve "TreeInfo interface is not suitable for
          dynamic nodes"
          <br>
               functions:
          <br>
               !300: fix some minor issues which clang++11 complains
          about
          <br>
               !278: [WIP] Provide test and fix for interpolation of
          general vector
          <br>
               valued functions
          <br>
          <br>
               It's kind of sad, that we were not able to merge typetree
          into common.
          <br>
               Maybe this can happen after Dune 2.8.
          <br>
          <br>
               Bye
          <br>
               Christoph
          <br>
          <br>
               Am 24.06.21 um 11:42 schrieb Markus Blatt:
          <br>
          <br>
                   Dear users and developers,
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
                   we will be preparing a DUNE 2.8 release this summer.
          I will be
          <br>
                   the release
          <br>
                   manager and Christoph plans to help me with this
          task. The current
          <br>
                   tentative schedule for the release is as follows:
          <br>
          <br>
                   2021-07-09 (evening): Creation of release branches.
          From that
          <br>
                   time on only
          <br>
                         bugfixes or very important features will be
          backported to the
          <br>
                         release branches.
          <br>
                   2021-07-16 (evening): Feature freeze. Only bug fixes
          will be
          <br>
                   backported and
          <br>
                         accepted to the release branches
          <br>
                   2021-07-19: First release candidate. This and further
          candidates
          <br>
                   will be
          <br>
                         announced on the DUNE mailing lists.
          <br>
          <br>
                   Final release is planned for 2021-07-30, but that
          should be
          <br>
                   treated as a
          <br>
                   rather soft date. We will release once release
          candidates have
          <br>
                   been tested
          <br>
                   and we have not received any further bug reports.
          <br>
          <br>
                   As always we appreciate your help with testing and
          backported.
          <br>
                   Please
          <br>
                   always
          <br>
                   keep in mind that saying "I tested and found no
          issues" is
          <br>
                   always better
          <br>
                   than
          <br>
                   not reporting back in this case.
          <br>
          <br>
                   Cheers,
          <br>
          <br>
                   Markus
          <br>
          <br>
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