[Dune-devel] Request about the /usr/bin/dune filename

[Jö Fahlke]

Alright, pending Robert Klöfkorns opinion, I'm gonna attempt a draft
statement.  We should get our move on, since Debian will stop accepting new
packages 2019-02-12[1], and renaming a package counts as a new package if I'm
not mistaken.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/01/msg00008.html

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1. Dune (numerics) does not see a good enough reason to stop dune (ocaml)
   taking the /usr/bin/dune filename.

2. Dune (numerics) does not see a problem in dune (ocaml) using "dune" or
   "libdune" in package names, as long as "ocaml" also appears in the package
   name.

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@Stéphane Glondu: Renaming the package was offered by Anil Madhavapeddy here:
https://lists.dune-project.org/pipermail/dune-devel/2019-January/002432.html
As the (visible) maintainer of Dune (ocaml) in Debian, do you consider this
feasible?  Please let us know if not.

Regards,
Jö.

Am Mi, 23. Jan 2019, 14:09:58 +0000 schrieb Anil Madhavapeddy:
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:09:58 +0000
> From: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil at recoil.org>
> To: Christian Engwer <christian.engwer at uni-muenster.de>
> Cc: Dominic Kempf <dominic.kempf at iwr.uni-heidelberg.de>,
>  "jeremie at dimino.org" <jeremie at dimino.org>,
>  "dune-devel at lists.dune-project.org" <dune-devel at lists.dune-project.org>,
>  Robert Kloefkorn <Robert.Kloefkorn at iris.no>, Jö Fahlke <jorrit at jorrit.de>
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> Dear Christian,
> 
> Agreed from the OCaml side: we think the Debian package should be called “libocaml-dune” or “ocaml-dune” as you suggest.
> 
> The difficult thing for us to change is the use of /usr/bin/dune, since our build system is invoked from Makefiles in hundreds of 3rd party packages, so renaming the binary is difficult.
> 
> regards,
> Anil
> 
> > On 23 Jan 2019, at 14:06, Christian Engwer <christian.engwer at uni-muenster.de> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > As there are so many different packages with the name dune or something related, I'd rather suggest not too many any package "dune". For example the buildsystem could be called "ocaml-dune", whitedune already has a distinct name and DUNE might be called "libdune" or "dune-project"...
> > 
> > Christian
> > 
> > Am 23. Januar 2019 14:40:50 MEZ schrieb "Jö Fahlke" <jorrit at jorrit.de>:
> >> Hi Christian, Robert, Dominic, Steffen, Markus,
> >> 
> >> not wanting to exclude anyone else, but if anyone has a different
> >> opinion on
> >> this matter I guess it would be one of you.  Do you see a reason not to
> >> let
> >> dune (an ocaml buildsystem) have the executable name "/usr/bin/dune"
> >> and
> >> package names such as "dune" and "libdune-ocaml-dev" in Debian?
> >> 
> >> At least something along the lines of "busy right now, need more time",
> >> "I
> >> guess if you guys are OK with it it can't be too bad" or "don't care"
> >> would be
> >> good.
> >> 
> >> See
> >> https://lists.dune-project.org/pipermail/dune-devel/2019-January/002419.html
> >> for our Discussion so far, and https://bugs.debian.org/919951 for the
> >> whole
> >> drama.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Jö.
> > 
> 
> 
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